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lunchtime reading

so yesterday i receive an email. i posted it as a note on my facebook and sent it out to several friends, we all had a nice laugh. i was intending to reply to every point the guy made super sarcastically and callous-like, make an example of him, because i am sick and fucking tired of people assuming that they know me. i was planning to piss off a lot of people really, but anyway i forwarded the email along to one guy in particular and said he was hired cos i know this shit is right up his alley as he has sent me numerous essay-length analytic emails out of the blue on multiple occasions to which i respond with barely a sentence, only to enrage him more, another reply, on and on until he got the joke. if you want to read the email in its entirety scroll to the bottom, keith has replied like i intended to in sections. oh, and it’s long. ps. i KNOW how he found me, through the video of me dancing to goodbye horses on youtube, you know the classic track buffalo bill sticks his penis between his legs to? yeah, i wake up to the most insane comments on that video daily, ugh. anyway there are lyrics on this guy’s myspace to that song so i can only assume he is awash with sexual identity issues. why can’t i make assumptions on others like they do me, fair is fair no? here is a picture of him with an alleged boner. (removed, not worth the lash out when he inevitably puts two and two together)(even though HE started it) ok nevermind here it is again now he can’t complain to flickr about it.

anyway, charles guy, take a relax pill maybe?

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I am not Raymi the Minx. My name is Keith and I will be assessing the effort you put forth in the passive-aggressive email that you sent to Raymi.

(Please consider this a critique and not a personal attack.)

I will isolate the various pieces of your message.

(1) “I found your page by accident.”

If you want to interact with another person on a meaningful level… it is not a good idea to start by absolving yourself of responsibility.

In addition, a disclamatory statement can be interpreted as a sign of both pride and insecurity.

So within your first sentence you’ve established that you are most likely a prideful and insecure person, who is prone to the avoidance of personal accountability.

(2) “Why do insecure people with strange eyes and big noses have a tendency to enjoy photographing themselves? and writing about themselves? drink a lot, take prescription drugs, and tell the world about it?”

In the second sentence of your email you use the words “insecure” “strange eyes” and “big noses.” You are setting this up to be an extremely confrontational message. How can you expect someone to read your message when you begin by insulting them? Furthermore, you’re speaking indirectly. It seems that you’re trying to misdirect your reader by nesting insults within rhetorical questions. Which is not clever. Now if you remove the insults from your question you end up with this: ‘Why do people have a tendency to photograph themselves? Why do people write about themselves? Why do people drink a lot, take prescription drugs, and choose to tell the world about it? The answer to that string of questions is relatively simple; human beings are social creatures with a high level of self-awareness. If you are claiming that it is unnatural to look at yourself, and if you are claiming that it is unnatural to party, and unnatural to tell other people about the things you do… then you’ve missed a large portion of what goes on with human beings.

(3) “You’re incredibly intelligent because you are so creative and funny, but you’re overlooking a glaring contradiction, which is that if you were truly intelligent, you’d never mention it, nor would you give a shit what anyone thinks of your life.”

This segment is not easy to read. It seems that you are saying that her intelligence is the result of her being creative and funny. I know that’s not what you mean, but the phrasing makes you look foolish.

You are the one that is saying that she is intelligent. Even if you could somehow prove that true intelligence results in the choice to stay silent about one’s own life… there still wouldn’t be a contradiction on her part. You brought up the entire intelligence scenario. And in the same vein; there is no good reason to assume that intelligence is in any way connected to not giving “a shit what anyone thinks of your life.” In fact, I would say that most intelligent people are aware of the expectations and needs of their society, their acquaintances, their friends, and their family. That doesn’t mean these people are governed by their awareness of others, but they certainly should consider other people and what other people want, like, and think of them if they want to achieve any relevant level of success.

(4) “You spend too much time trying to be beautiful, cute, quirky, and smart. Your real name probably isn’t even Raymi.”

What is the difference between ‘trying to be’ and ‘being?’

It seems to me that the difference between ‘trying to be’ and ‘being’ can only be determined after a detailed analysis of the way that people appear and conduct themselves in the daily flow of their lives. If you are not privy to the daily flow of a person’s life, how can you be in a position to make this sort of de facto claim? If you find Raymi to be beautiful, cute, quirky, and smart… then that’s that. Because for you, like all her other internet acquaintances, the only reference you have is what she presents to you through the filter what is her weblog.

And even though I don’t know Raymi, beyond some email correspondence, I can tell you with a certainty that her real name is not Raymi… you should have been able to figure that out with a few clicks of the mouse.

(5) “You should learn how to be lonely, and use the other side of your brain. You will never know how to be independent until you do that, and it’s obvious how dependent you are on the opinions of others for your self-esteem.”

The main claim here is that she “should learn how to be lonely” and to “use the other side of” her “brain” so that she will “know how to be independent.” This is almost unintelligible. I’m assuming that you mean that she should learn how to deal with being lonely in a different way, or perhaps you mean that she should learn how to feel the feeling of loneliness, but either way I don’t see how that will help her to “know how to be independent.” Pure independence, in the realm of societal living, is not achievable, and even the societal semblance of independence is based on many factors beyond loneliness.I think that most people figure out a way to work out the give and take of their relationships with other people… and they find a balance that works for them. (I’m not going to address the functioning of the brain and which personality traits derive from which side of the brain, i’m assuming you haven’t studied neurophysiology or anything beyond basic psychology.)

You talk about ‘learning’ and ‘knowing’ but it should be obvious that a good deal of what goes on with Raymi’s blog stems from a more immediate realist perspective. People are obsessed with celebrities… so sometimes she talks about that… people are into fashion and food… so she talks about that… she talks about the things that people like, and things that she likes, because her blog is an entertainment product. All entertainers are dependent on the opinions of others, as it relates to self-esteem and, in general.

(6) “The people you see in movies and magazines who have made impressions on you, that have shaped your image of beauty, those people are not real. You cannot be those people, like those people, or similar to those people because you are not them. You are just a girl who came from two parents.”

It seems that you are assuming that you are dealing with a simpleton. If you would take the time to scroll down and look on the right hand side of Raymi’s blog, you would see the satirical GIFs that poke fun at the glamorized celebrity forms. We are all products of our environment. The people that you see in movies and magazines are real people. They are just people that have given up a moderate life for the high-paced life of celebrity. Raymi is doing something similar… in a sense she is in the same position as those people in movies and in magazines… she has given up a moderate life in order to provide entertainment, and to achieve the rewards that come from being an entertainer. A primary example of this departure from traditional normalcy is the fact that she has to field emails from a person like you who is choosing to bombard her with a mixture of insult, criticism, and advice. Something that she did was special enough to get you to dedicate your time and effort in response.

(7) “When you build your ego on the deceit of image and narcissistic thinking, it’ll always collapse and you’ll keep cycling. You’ll jump from place to place, person to person, and no one will ever really know who you are.”

What is this based on? What cycle is she going through? From what I understand she just got engaged. This sounds like a high school journal entry. You can’t just assume that your reader will know what you’re talking about. You have to provide discernible content.

If you mean to say that she is deceiving herself and that she thinks narcissistically, and if you are saying that her way of being will lead to an internal collapse, and a downward spiral… then I must ask: why it is that you think you know that to be the case? You are making all sorts of personal claims, and you have said yourself that you found her page by accident. What possible knowledge could you have in relation to the person behind the diarist blog that you stumbled upon. I hope you realize that you are attacking a persona. You are giving advice to the same movie/magazine ghost that you highlighted as a non-reality in an earlier segment.

(8) “If you take all this bullshit out of your life, you’ll see that you need a little more to be proud of. Buy Raymi stuff? I don’t buy any of this bullshit. Stop staring at your videos, photos, and your face in the mirror. Your face is not going to change, especially by looking at it for hours.

It is your opinion that some of Raymi’s product is ‘bullshit.’ But what does that mean objectively. I think that Dan Brown’s books are absolute dog piss drivel. But plenty of people read Angels and Demons and have a wonderfully fulfilling experience. Raymi has created a blog and she has captured people’s interest. That is plenty to be proud of.

I can’t think of anything to say to you, in relation to the rest of this segment, that wouldn’t be a direct insult. Suffice it to say that you are irrationally lashing out at someone else’s progressive efforts.

(9) “‘If you spent a week without anyone staring at you (that includes you), or talking about yourself, and you were just a person…say living in the woods…what kind of person would you be?
Self pitied, putting on an act for yourself, pretending you’re better than your environment? Would you be thinking about how other people would see you, even though you’re alone? Would you see the real texture of life outside of your ego? Would you be thinking about other people’s opinions if you were to start to write about it? How much can you factor in what isn’t there, when you would be alone?”

This last segment presents a hypothetical situation that most people have already thought about. This is why people hike in the mountains and build forts. That being said, I’m not sure why it is such a popular thought experiment. Human beings are social creatures and we have to live as such. The nature of self-awareness makes it so that we spend a great deal of time inside of ourselves… And then when it comes time to interact we have to step beyond ourselves to relate to others. People like Raymi seem to have found a ever-present creative outlet which hybridizes the internal and the external. Maintaining a diarist blog implies the constant production of material… the content is the result of both internal creativity and the external world of creativity. It requires her internal creative effort and her ability to maneuver socially. For example, she knew to pass your ridiculous email on to a ridiculous (and verbose) person like me… because I enjoy this sort of thing… and even while dismissing you she made sure that you got sufficient attention.

Being alone is not part of the world that we exist in. Your closing point is not a particularly potent one… Raymi’s creative endeavor is a social thing.

In conclusion, I hope that you realize that you have fallen into a particular trap. In the hip-hop/rap community I believe they would call you a ‘hater.’ You cannot hope to rise out of anonymity and give relevant advice to someone that has made a name for themselves. Raymi has established a fan-base and a reputation through her own effort. She built her online persona from scratch… and for that she deserves respect. The only reason that you were given the opportunity to voice your opinion is because Raymi has created a community in which you were able to find content that sparked your interest. In this scenario you either need to provide a very good argument as to why you are presenting criticisms or you should just settle down and compliment the elements of her work that you find interesting. You did not provide a good argument, your points were haphazard and underdeveloped, and actually, with this effort you entered a state of pure hypocrisy. At certain points in the email you were trying to insult her, and at other points you were trying to give her advice, you did not do a good job on either front and ultimately you should retreat. Raymi has already proved that she can hold an audience. Her position speaks for itself. Your personal opinion, in light of the material you presented, is almost irrelevant… the only sliver of value that comes from your effort can be seen in the fact that your hapless criticism is a result of Raymi’s stylistic magnetism.

Before you assume that I am a devoted fan… it is important for you to know that I find a lot of Raymi’s blog to be inane and unappealing. But I have a very strong respect for her ability as an entertainer. Her persona is simultaneously approachable and provocative.

Your personal attacks and your attempts to give advice are inappropriate in this context.

I hope this has been helpful.

-Keith

I found your page by accident. Why do insecure people with strange eyes and big noses have a tendency to enjoy photographing themselves? and writing about themselves? drink a lot, take prescription drugs, and tell the world about it? You’re incredibly intelligent because you are so creative and funny, but you’re overlooking a glaring contradiction, which is that if you were truly intelligent, you’d never mention it, nor would you give a shit what anyone thinks of your life. You spend too much time trying to be beautiful, cute, quirky, and smart. Your real name probably isn’t even Raymi.
You should learn how to be lonely, and use the other side of your brain. You will never know how to be independent until you do that, and it’s obvious how dependent you are on the opinions of others for your self-esteem.
The people you see in movies and magazines who have made impressions on you, that have shaped your image of beauty, those people are not real. You cannot be those people, like those people, or similar to those people because you are not them. You are just a girl who came from two parents.
When you build your ego on the deceit of image and narcissistic thinking, it’ll always collapse and you’ll keep cycling. You’ll jump from place to place, person to person, and no one will ever really know who you are. If you take all this bullshit out of your life, you’ll see that you need a little more to be proud of. Buy Raymi stuff? I don’t buy any of this bullshit. Stop staring at your videos, photos, and your face in the mirror. Your face is not going to change, especially by looking at it for hours.
Talking about yourself isn’t gonna make your appearance change either, nor does it make you smart.
If you spent a week without anyone staring at you (that includes you), or talking about yourself, and you were just a person…say living in the woods…what kind of person would you be? Self pitied, putting on an act for yourself, pretending you’re better than your environment? Would you be thinking about how other people would see you, even though you’re alone? Would you see the real texture of life outside of your ego? Would you be thinking about other people’s opinions if you were to start to write about it? How much can you factor in what isn’t there, when you would be alone?

also, let it be known that i absolutely love getting out of dodge and skidding out in the woods with my friends and fil. see? i think that is the eventual goal for us too.

hahaha tempy. click for better reading. “Raymi I totally found the first draft of that guy’s email to you! Check it out!”

thanks rolando.

also check out these two pages of twilight stalker chat. they left comments on my blog too that i deleted. the short of it is that we are stalker whores of rob pattinson because i talked to him and blogged about it and keira put the photo she took from across the room on her blog. you twilight geeks are big time losers. how are we the stalkers when you go on and on about this in a stupid chat and even say ooh i love him in black then you speak vampire? we encountered him in the bar that gibson booked for their junos party, so maybe he is actually stalking us.

“Oh dude, you should grow a pair and publish the negative comments. You are bragging about how awesome your blog is back it up with some balls.”

FUCK OFF desperate nerd.

35 thoughts on “lunchtime reading

  1. this is the weirdest yet, somehow funny thing i’ve read in a while.. wtf? really? dude….. (that was meant for mr. alleged boner)

  2. people are so weird. i mean, if i don’t like someone, i just stop paying attention to them, and certainly wouldn’t bother spending time writing emails to them. SIGH.

  3. Pfft…nothing better to do than to pick on someone else I guess. He also needs to be explained the concept of a blog. See, how it works is the blogger takes pictures, usually of themselves, and their surroundings, and hello their life, and posts them. So, what’s with attacking you for doing that. And PS your blog is honest, and entertaining, and poignant and funny, and you are beautiful.

    Ugh, and kudos to you for not attacking him back in the same way. It would be easy enough to do. Douchey people who take boner photos in drive-throughs shouldn’t throw stones.

  4. Pfft…nothing better to do than to pick on someone else I guess. He also needs to be explained the concept of a blog. See, how it works is the blogger takes pictures, usually of themselves, and their surroundings, and hello their life, and posts them.

    Ugh, and kudos to you for not attacking him back in the same way. It would be easy enough to do. Douchey people who take boner photos in drive-throughs shouldn’t throw stones.

  5. I bet some girl who looked JUST like you dumped him hardcore in high school, so he’s just mad bitter and taking it out on you.

  6. it’s so weird that you get emails like that. I don’t really get it. Why do you make people so angry I wonder…? Anyway, I read the whole thing which took a long time. I love the intense analysis always. Congrats on everything. Happy belated birthday. Hope to see you again soon somewhere. :)

  7. Just picture him clicking the ‘send’ button, closing his laptop, staring out the window. A plane goes by.

    What a douchebag!!!

  8. it’s overwhelming thinking about how much of it i have and how it’s scattered in my email, totally unorganized. perfect new book material.

    plane goes by hahahaha.

  9. i posted my reaction to the loser letter on your facebook note.

    love the response from Keith – good points.

    now that i’ve seen the photo, i second my own facebook comment.

  10. he replied to keith:

    this person isn’t good material. he responded to 4.5 of the 8 highlighted sections in a relatively bland manner.

    he misses the point on pretty much every response.

    I may or may not write back to him. but i can already see that its an irrational fest. this guy thinks he’s superior… and he’s stupid. not a fun combo. feel free to post whatever. but i was not entertained by his response. its just basic prideful shit.

    his words are the purple parts.

    also, i’m happy to see that the orange hat is still around.

    ———- Forwarded message ———

    I am not Raymi the Minx. My name is Keith and I will be assessing the effort you put forth in the passive-aggressive email that you sent to Raymi.
    (Please consider this a critique and not a personal attack.)
    I will isolate the various pieces of your message.

    (For the 10 minutes I put into the message, I now have a minion with nothing to do with the message…isolating and critiquing the message? Are you Jewish Regelmann?)

    (1) “I found your page by accident.”
    If you want to interact with another person on a meaningful level… it is not a good idea to start by absolving yourself of responsibility.
    In addition, a disclamatory statement can be interpreted as a sign of both pride and insecurity.
    So within your first sentence you’ve established that you are most likely a prideful and insecure person, who is prone to the avoidance of personal accountability.

    (She’s dancing to a Q Lazzarus song featured in Silence Of The Lambs…in a video posted on youtube. Her video comes up when anyone searches for that particular song. Now, if that’s a true fact, what does that have to do with my pride, my accountability, or my lack of meaning? If you’re going to a critique of something that has nothing to do with you, conjecture and imagination aren’t worth shit. In behavioral psychology, which you obviously have an elementary understanding of, you cannot base an inexact science’s behavioral models on conjecture, such as happenstance, which can be easily explained through a simple internet search. You don’t even have time or evidence for a narrow view, yet alone a broad opinion, so you’ve already lost any credibility there. That’s why there is a such thing as a scientific method, even in making a diagnostic critique of random moment.)

    (2) “Why do insecure people with strange eyes and big noses have a tendency to enjoy photographing themselves? and writing about themselves? drink a lot, take prescription drugs, and tell the world about it?”

    In the second sentence of your email you use the words “insecure” “strange eyes” and “big noses.” You are setting this up to be an extremely confrontational message. How can you expect someone to read your message when you begin by insulting them?

    (Good point. Which is why I have a very low expectation of most people, especially egocentrics…)

    Furthermore, you’re speaking indirectly. It seems that you’re trying to misdirect your reader by nesting insults within rhetorical questions. Which is not clever.

    (You’re already wrong there…cleverness can easily be defined as simply as identifying the truth. Being honest is being clever.)

    Now if you remove the insults from your question you end up with this: ‘Why do people have a tendency to photograph themselves? Why do people write about themselves? Why do people drink a lot, take prescription drugs, and choose to tell the world about it? The answer to that string of questions is relatively simple; human beings are social creatures with a high level of self-awareness. If you are claiming that it is unnatural to look at yourself, and if you are claiming that it is unnatural to party, and unnatural to tell other people about the things you do… then you’ve missed a large portion of what goes on with human beings.

    (Humans didn’t evolve staring at themselves, spending hours talking about themselves, so your reference to the human condition sharing these narcissistic traits is way off. The majority of the world survives on less than $2 per day, and does not share your narrow minded view. There are bigger questions, which simple questions inevitably lead to. But the problem is you cannot answer these questions for someone else. They have to ask them, consider them, and ask themselves the more important questions.)

    (3) “You’re incredibly intelligent becaus soe you are creative and funny, but you’re overlooking a glaring contradiction, which is that if you were truly intelligent, you’d never mention it, nor would you give a shit what anyone thinks of your life.”

    This segment is not easy to read. It seems that you are saying that her intelligence is the result of her being creative and funny. I know that’s not what you mean, but the phrasing makes you look foolish.

    (Segment? It’s a statement. And a simple one. And yes, her being creative and funny is a direct result of her intelligence. It’s a good way to characterize a person’s intellect. It’s more honest than a standardized test because it’s very personal.)

    You are the one that is saying that she is intelligent. Even if you could somehow prove that true intelligence results in the choice to stay silent about one’s own life… there still wouldn’t be a contradiction on her part. You brought up the entire intelligence scenario. And in the same vein; there is no good reason to assume that intelligence is in any way connected to not giving “a shit what anyone thinks of your life.” In fact, I would say that most intelligent people are aware of the expectations and needs of their society, their acquaintances, their friends, and their family. That doesn’t mean these people are governed by their awareness of others, but they certainly should consider other people and what other people want, like, and think of them if they want to achieve any relevant level of success.

    (In the beginning of this paragraph you’re creating a point based on a statement I didn’t relate in that context. That’s an easy way to confuse a point to win an argument, but doing it doesn’t prove your point. The truth is, a smart person doesn’t need the validation or attention on their intelligence. There were enough references to intelligence on the short page I read, that the contradiction is obvious. The argument that responsibility of human beings to humanity is wholly independent, and has nothing to do with my statement. You’re using a broad argument about a hypothetical human responsibility, which the original point I made about this girl has no relation to. And you’re mentioning relevance at the end of all this?)

    (4) “You spend too much time trying to be beautiful, cute, quirky, and smart. Your real name probably isn’t even Raymi.”

    What is the difference between ‘trying to be’ and ‘being?’

    (She can answer that herself. Hypothetically, if someone did ask her, would she be honest about how the question applies to her? The ego wouldn’t stand for it.)

    It seems to me that the difference between ‘trying to be’ and ‘being’ can only be determined after a detailed analysis of the way that people appear and conduct themselves in the daily flow of their lives. If you are not privy to the daily flow of a person’s life, how can you be in a position to make this sort of de facto claim?

    (When a person sees a mediocre performance onstage, especially when they know the difference, ‘trying to be’ isn’t a question.)

    If you find Raymi to be beautiful, cute, quirky, and smart… then that’s that. Because for you, like all her other internet acquaintances, the only reference you have is what she presents to you through the filter what is her weblog.

    (Any excuse you make doesn’t change the fact that here is a person blogging mediocre bullshit, and for what? There has to be a reason. For me, attention isn’t good enough to warrant the 5 minutes I wasted on her site. There isn’t anything else of value on that site from what I saw. If you’d like to speak for her, then go ahead. What are some other excuses?)

    And even though I don’t know Raymi, beyond some email correspondence, I can tell you with a certainty that her real name is not Raymi… you should have been able to figure that out with a few clicks of the mouse.

    (I probably could’ve figured it out clicking my mouse, but I didn’t waste the time, I just assumed the fact. It’s the same syndrome hillbillies have when they give themselves Pagan names. I haven’t had any correspondence with Raymi, and don’t expect to. What I know is what I sent in the comment, under the link which invited my comment. Sorry it was so blunt.)

    (5) “You should learn how to be lonely, and use the other side of your brain. You will never know how to be independent until you do that, and it’s obvious how dependent you are on the opinions of others for your self-esteem.”

    The main claim here is that she “should learn how to be lonely” and to “use the other side of” her “brain” so that she will “know how to be independent.” This is almost unintelligible.

    (In America that statement is plain. There is obviously a creative side of the brain this chick uses, exclusively. If she used the other side of the brain, or if you did it for her, she might consider the larger questions of whether or not her personality is transparent and vacant. You’ve said she has fans and is an entertainer, so that makes sense because people will read anything. I don’t have time to answer the rest of this message because I have some stuff to do. I’ll respond to the rest when I make some time. I’m surprised you wasted so much of your time defending your employer there. Must be quite an operation.)

  11. he should have realized that maybe this is my fucking career i have created for myself based on the niche i carved, not easy work.

  12. WOW Keith has a way with words.

    I would almost feel sorry for that dude that emailed you if it weren’t for all of his nasty personal attacks on you.

    Speaking of who is weird looking: Rob Pattison.

  13. WOW keiths got a sharp tongue and even sharper ideas about sociology…

    tell him to join mgs site and sling some verbally-epic mud over there…i’d like to see him go on a tirade fuck yeah

    and candice is right…emails like that are validating for sure; most people who actually dislike something dont make an effort to give it advice or even bother to insult it..

    the thing that pisses me off most about his email is where he talks about loneliness and how you dont know what it feels like…he obviously knows nothing about bipolarity and what it does to your self esteem and psyche in general.

    ignorance is bliss but only for the ignorant, pff.

  14. i’ve actually spent a good deal of time both contemplating and experiencing loneliness. fuck him. though i sincerely thanked him for the material.

  15. what park are you hangin in where squirrels wander around willy nilly with boners?

    remind me not to go to that park.

    [i agree about the guy’s grossness, maybe on a different level]

  16. I’m one of those parents you came from….
    You actually affected him
    He likes you
    thats why he wrote the nasty email
    jealousy in reverse.

  17. I totally want Keith to write a point by point rebuttal for my Human Rights Complaint investigation (I brought the HR Complaint, I haven’t been accused of anything – just to clarify). I think he would do a better job than my stupid lawyer.

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